@TheGreatWar3 years agoSign up for Curiosity Stream and get Nebula bundled in and SAVE 26%: 67
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@sahrazad82133 years agoThis period 1919-1921 has to be the most interesting and rare this channel has covered so far 263
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@strzelba82542 years agoI'm impressed by your pronunciation of either polish or german names. Well done Jesse, sign of great professionalism. 121
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@jayg14383 years agoI love the lesser known topics that shaped things in the interwar period as a result of the Post WWI map making. Thank you for covering this is a thorough and unbiased way. 415
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@MartinCHorowitz3 years agoI don't believe you are the ONLY YouTube channel that wants a plebiscite on the YT algorithm. 204
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@SirWilliamKidney3 years agoThis many years in who would have thought that a Great War upload still makes my day? 93
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@MarxAnt2 years agoThank you for sharing that story. As an upper-silesian I appreciate your work even more. 23
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@benstewart79703 years agoThis is what I hate about the British education system we were never told about these important post war events happening all over europe, apparently the guns fell silent on the 11th Nov 1918 and the world was once again at peace. Thankfully there are fantastic channels like this one to help us understand the consequences of a flawed peace treaty for ordinary people ...625
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@emil16222 years agoI'm german but this is the first time I heard about this. In school I never heard about this and in another video I saw, they said based on elections of the people living there it was divided. I think it would be important enoughto teach us in school ...72
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@fredlange39153 years agoThe Picture at dosn't show Annaberg in Silesia it's a Picture of Annaberg in Saxony. Still extremly well made Video, thanks. 49
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@Britishwolf893 years agoThis channel continues to be excellent quality. Thanks for everything Jesse and keep up the awesome work. Many of us very much appreciate the work you put into this channel to keep it alive. 148
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@fraso20002 years agoPart of my family comes from Upper Silesia. I never heard of this conflict. Thank you very much! 13
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@marektomczak14352 years agoHello, I am one of the enthusiasts of your channels both on a YouTube and on Nebula as well. I am Pole as an origin, born in Poznan and I am happy to see, you can avoid single sided (Polish and/or German) point of view on this very complexed problem. Simply: thank you. However, I have one favour to ask, you continuously exceed your 100th anniversary formula in both directions. Maybe you can find interest and time to present the Polish Greater Poland uprising of December 27th 1918, which is significant for me (but not only for me), because is one and only major polish uprising which has prevailed to this very day. Best Regards Marek Tomczak ...9
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@andymark36642 years agoYou must know how the fate of Silesia was confused. See my grandmother as an example. A husband in the German Afrika Korps, he was captured and until 1947 in a POW camp in the USA. The first brother was in the Wehrmacht in tanks, he was killed by a Russian bullet in captivity because he had sugar. My grandmother's second brother got into the KZ Theresienstadt for not showing up in the Wehrmacht unit. The third brother was an officer in the Polish army, took part in the Warsaw Uprising and died there, hit in the back by a sniper bullet. Only one brother survived, the one who did not agree to military service. ...9
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@theodoreroosevelt31433 years agoYaaaay, very specific episode for me, i'm from the Polish town of Katowice from Silesia region 178
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@cow18163 years agoI would have thought I knew a lot about history, but I absolutely never heard of this before, thank you for teaching us about subjects that aren't discussed :) 29
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@truemonsterhunter13 years agoLove how I still see new videos of the great war 19
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@jjforcebreaker3 years agoVery solid work. Thanks for making it! 2
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@rosesprog17223 years agoI love your presentations, objective, complete and unbiased, thenk you. 8
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@gardreropa3 years agoA great and markedly balanced episode! Thank you! 8
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@srelma3 years agoAmazing video. I thought I was pretty knowledgeable with European history, but had to admit that I had never heard of the upper-silesian dispute ever before. thanks for making me learn. 25
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@Achin_Jain3 years agoBrilliant episode. I hope someday we will have something much bigger and better than YouTube which will help thrive creators such as TGW without all this stress. 😞 44
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@__________________________Fred3 years agoAmazing and interesting video. You gotta love the old recordings 3
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@miba21373 years agoVery interesting and objective video. Thanks to you I got some new perspective on the subject :) 4
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@patrickcloutier68013 years agoA very excellent summary of events - neither simplistic, nor burdensome 4
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@mandefu0073 years agoI much appreciate your series and applaud your approach to the subject and your research. You have a friend in Newfoundland.
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@michaelcaffery533 years agoA well made podcast with an objective view on little known (if at all in the UK) example of post Great War problems. I am a big fan of the series. 25
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@seidenstickerj2 years agoMad props for releasing such a professional and well-made video. It's always especially impressive to hear people pronouncing German words so well. Much love from Germany, and may Europe always have peace! 11
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@CatWithAHat2HD3 years agoThe idea that Lloyd George's support for the Germans, in this case, had anything to do with moral concerns is honestly laughable. That's not how empires operate when it comes to foreign policy, especially if the decision isn't a fast, impulsive one. He supported the Germans because he saw Poland as a French protectorate, and didn't want to strengthen France too much at Germany's expense. The point was to keep balance on the continent, not favour whoever happened to be right or wrong. ...130
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@cojaysea2 years agoThanks for such an informative topic that’s never discussed any where . 1
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@DoraFauszt3 years agoAnother awsome episode about a topic I had little to no knowledge about! 4
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@alfredvonk76863 years agoBeside your excellent historical knowledge a compliment on your linguistic skills. Regards from The Netherlands 9
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@robertcottam90002 years agoI'd simply like to congratulate you on an excellent series. Thank you 2
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@tomaszskowron14382 years agoGreat video, however it is clear that you did not use "The Silesian Uprisings 1919–1920–1921. The unknown Polish-German war" by Ryszard Kaczmarek - a professor from Silesian University in Katwoice. There are many aspects, like subversive activity in Silesia done by POW before the war (polish military spy network in Upper-Silesia), that you ommited. Kaczmarek's book has the most up-to date view on Silesian Uprisings and if one wants to have a full picture of the situation i'd recommend to check this book out. ...4
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@barbarabinias98362 years agoI am from Upper Silesia and I always felt polish, german and silesian. 21
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@shawnwaterssw4 months agoWar & Postwar Events are extremely important. I’m thankful for your channel.
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@FAKos-np7rh2 years agoone great vid! thank you! (from Rybnik, Upper Silesia)
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@Victorw-jw3dc3 years agoCan you make a special about freikorps or stormtrooper uniforms, love the show 19
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@codynewton76862 years agoMy mother is a German American immigrant. My great grandfather fought in the great war. Its crazy to me that men that saw the horror of that war returned to fight another. Stronger men than me for sure. Wow. I love these videos. so informative on smaller conflicts I never knew about! Thanks! keep em coming! Also the German pronunciation is great! Danke Sehr! ...7
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@casadelosotte3 years agoI did not know the details yet and I loved the documentary 1
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@mikesaunders47753 years agoA very well-presented documentary about a conflict that is virtually unknown in England. 11
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@petergray75763 years ago "War reparations" is the beginning of an extended crisis between the Allies and the Weimar Republic because of the exorbitant amount of money that the former were expecting the latter to pay. The government of Constantin Fehrenbach lost a no confidence vote on May 10 and collapsed, and Joseph Wirth replaced Fehrenbach. The same day the Reichstag voted 221 to 175 to accept Allied terms for reparations and war crimes, but the resulting hyperinflation crippled the Republic's ability to pay the Allies, leading to increasing tension that would peak in a French occupation of the Rhineland in 1923. ...20
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@drj.r.cooper24933 years agoI don't want to OVER-SELL the point I'm making...but one recurring theme that you touch on involves France's difficulty with the outcome of the War of 1870. They were convinced that they were somehow wrongfully cheated in that war. This lead to their early "eagerness" to enter WW1 & to punish Germany afterwards. It would cost them dearly in less than 20 years. ...12
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@zepter003 years agoDo you know How is turtle in silesian dialect? ..... Panzer żaba. That means litteraly armored frog 😆😁😆🤣 52
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@oldesertguy96163 years agoI seem to keep commenting on the same thing, but your photographs just amaze me. I realize they are colorized, but they are the best I've ever seen from the period.
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@tekis03 years agoWait a minute. YouTube won't let you and others make historical videos?!! I'm definitely going to look at Nebula for the Battle of Berlin!
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@tomgrab1003 years agoI want to add as an epilogue, that In september '39 German Einsatzgruppen had very detailed lists of people who took part in silesian uprisings and killed them all 68
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@javierperalta76483 years agoSo this is part of the aftermath of the 'War to end all wars'?? Lol. 45
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@VaQm112 years agoThis is amazing. Thank you! BTW If you like this period (1918-1921)also check out The Iron Dice podcasts series.
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@blaked75323 years agothe graphic at @ made me think of the safety diamond info placks on cargo trucks :P
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@petergray75763 years agoFor sale: one banana. Price: 2 trillion Reichmarks. Bring your own wheelbarrow with cash contained inside. 64
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@silesiaattack91122 years agoAs Silesian thank you for video! Pyrsk! 3
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@arishokqunari12902 years agoI'm surprised that Poland could create an army in such a short time since there wasn't even a polish state since Napoleon 6
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@Miamcoline2 years agoThank you for this work! Well done and very balanced coverage. Objective rather than neutral which is the best way to be. 4
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@KoW4LsKy3 years agoMy granddad fought during Silesian uprising on polish side. I still have his notes in form of rapport from that time :D 28
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@indianajones43213 years agoGermany vs Poland, might be foreshadowing something 80
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@jurtra90903 years ago for a moment, i thought he was Mark Twain 6
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@JasonSputnik3 years agoI feel so ignorant when I watch this video and I realize how much I didn't know and how much I still ignore... THANKS!
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@kostek44303 years agoAfter those events an autonomous Silesian Voivodeship was created with it's own constitution and parliament. 38
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@kajetan89862 years agoAlthough being a year late, I just wanted to thank you for this material! Being Silesian and a descendant of both german and polish Silesians, I appreciate the nuances you've shown in material, displaying both wrongs and right of both sides. However, I just wanted to bring one more nuance to the story - first and foremost, this was a class war. Poles were almost exclusively working class, while the capital owners were almost exclusively german. The emergence of Poland after WWI as a socialist state (lead by Polish Socialist Party) was a promise of a more egalitarian society to the working class in Upper Silesia, and the ethnicity was used to attract the slavic silesian working class. Interestingly enough, a big chunk of polish Silesians who fought for Poland in 1921, were quickly disillusioned by the polish state, feeling that the region is treated rather like a conquered territory, with no local representation in the leadership and increasing polonization. The struggle continues to this day - in the polish census from 2011, 800 000 people delcared their nationality as Silesian - and despite being the biggest minority in Poland, in the latest census from 2021, Silesian nationality was not even listed as one of the available to choose from. Every polish government since 1945 denied to accept silesian language as regional language. Not to mention polish government to this day enforcing polish nationalist version of history in our schools and public institutions, neglecting 600 years of silesian history when it was a part of german-speaking world. Thank you for popularizing the history of my region! ...59
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@davidmcleod60323 years agoBirmingham, Alabama gained significant population immigrants from this area. Birmingham has many coal mines as well. 10
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@Patrick_37513 years agoThe fight over Upper Silesia perfectly illustrates the big problem with national histories. An ethnically and linguistically diverse region with its own regional identity like Upper Silesia does not conform to the neat boundaries and straightforward narratives that national histories try to promote. Regions like that transcend borders, which is why we need more transnational historical narratives! ...50
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@charlescrowell33463 years agoThe beginning and the end of any war is always the most dangerous time. 1
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@florinadrian51743 years agoYou guys are great. In addition to Nebula, you could mirror your youtube footprint to odysee, for free and no extra work. 1
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@0plp02 years agoWhy did the majority vote to join Germany? Because Germany sent hundreds of thousands of people from Germany to vote. These people were born in Silesia but spent most of their lives in Germany. 8
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@Skiskiski3 years agoIn Polish "Bitwa o Górę św. Anny." 25
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@pawelchmielewski13 years agoyour enot reliable enough-but nice job. Freikorps was a formation of ww1 vets and the Poles was lack of ammo (weapons of many types and ammo of many types and scarce ), war experience ,artillery and supplies . first battle of Annaberg was a polish defeat , second battle-31 05 1921- after oficial truce in Silesia -was Freikorpss defeat ( it could be explain by gaining fight experience by the insurgents) ...1
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@ar0naimstar2 years agoBattle of Annaberg? you meant Battle of Góra Świętej Anny? 4
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@grzegorzbaszczynski7593 years agoGòra świętej Anny you told that very well 5
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@maxsnuffy21593 years agoMy granduncle was member of Freikorps Oberland in the rank of a Lieutenant. He has fallen leading an attack on an armoured train. 35
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@sayit4623 years agoNow nearly forgotten "episode" of history. But in those days that was first page news in Europe. 1
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@seanmccann83683 years agoGreat Britain always stands for fair play. Obviously they never did in Ireland. 87
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@lukaszkowalski29713 years agoHow come you did not take into consideration Polish-Soviet war that had one of the most important turns exactly at that moment. Lloyd George also had a peculiar position on Poland in that topic. 15
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@bubiruski80672 years agoCoal was evenly important as oil at that time. Industry, railways, ships,..were run on coal and steam. Thus it is clear what the western allies wanted to do, they wanted to loot the coal from Silesia. Ethic consideration did not matter. This is also the reason why London and Paris later financed the harbor of Gdynia and the Magistrala Weglowa. Important was also to get cheap work. Wages for the Poles were certainly a lot lesser than in the west. This was in fact in opposition to the coal workers in Britain. Later the British oligarchs reduced the wages by 30% what caused a general strike 1926. This strike was not successful. It should be noted that Churchill wanted the use of the armed forces to end this strike. The question is what Churchill wanted to do - did he want to introduce forced labor ?! ...5
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@Game_Hero3 years ago They even got the help of force ghosts to help them 4
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@agrantharrison4723 years agoThe English word 'fair', in its native context, doesn't truly exist in any other language.... 16
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@ratorannui3 years agoHey great video, very detailed and informative, like everything you guys do. Also can you write out the names of individuals/organization that are key in the video itself. I was unable to find any further information about Bayufka Polska? () and Janfascka? ()). ...2
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@thechief003 years ago 🎵 you break downnnn 🎵
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@nowthenzen2 years agoThe interwar period was filled with lots of little wars all over the globe leading up to a big war 3
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@trevorhill47232 years ago. Loco is a Prussian T14/ Deutsche Reichsbahn BR93.
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@HistoryOfRevolutions3 years agoPolish writer Czesław Miłosz once stated: "The voice of passion is better than the voice of reason. The passionless cannot change history" 27
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@filipkopec5253 years agoHello, I am a Pole living in Katowice, Silesia, so i decided to share someof my opinions with you. I've read every comment and I've encountered many people saying basically those 2 things: 1. Poland was aggressive and attacking it's neighbours, therefore it was the evil one 2. If the Germans won the plebiscyte, they should get the land and the Poles can't say anything about this. And here are my views on those 2 opinions: 1. Poland did not have a clear border like Spain or France. The Polish people were living in many parts of Eastern Europe, usually mixed with other nationalities. Silesia was just one of many regions, that the reborn Polish state had the right to fight (for the reasons of Poles living there). After Poland disapeared from the maps after the partitions, all Polish (disputed or not*) lands were under the control of some other power. In 1919 Poland had control mainly over the post-russian lands that were ethnically Polish, with Warsaw, Lodz, Lublin etc. There were also ethnically Polish lands in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but as it came to those lands, poles were not the only ones having rights to them. Ukrainians, Czechs and Slovaks all wanted some of those lands because they were partially of their ethnicity or because of historical claims (the second one is irrelevant in my opinion). The biggest problem of that situation was that there was no clear line on a map that divided those various ethnicities. That is why Poland fought with the Czechs and Ukrainians. They conquered all of the land disputed with Ukraine(which failed to survive) but mostly lost with the Czechs(*Poland had a bigger problem to the east). The lands taken by Prussia in the partitions were also ethically diverse. The Germans were a majority in cities like Danzig(Pomerania) or Kattowitz(Upper Silesia) but there were also many parts of those territories that were predominantly Polish. Like Poznań(Posen in German)-the capital of Greater Poland(that is the name of this region) or the rural parts of Upper Silesia. That is why there were tensions between Poles and Germans. Germany had all the lands that were disputed and did not wish to loose any and Poland had none at the start and wished to have those that are polish, whit the excemption of Pomerania. In Greater Poland a succesful uprising(made by people living in the region) secured those land for Poland. In Silesia... you saw the video. 2. In the terms of the plebsicite it was agreed that the lands would be split in some way. It wasn't like many people believe that the wining side takes all. The problem was the same as in post Austro-Hungarian lands, that the clear line dividing two ethnicities couldn't have been drawn. Anyway, 60% of people voted for Germany, many of those were Poles. One explenation may be that Poland was fighting the war with the Soviets in the east and therefore they looked more unstable, but I digress. The uprising did not start because the Poles wanted to take all of Silesia for themselfes, thereby ignoring the terms of the plebiscite, but to gain as much of ethnically polish parts of Upper Silesia for themselfes. Germany would be satsfied only if they keep all of Silesia and Poland could have been satisfied only if they get all ethnically Polish lands(which contradicted the German plans). The conflict was inevitable, no matter who got what. ...50
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@susangoaway3 years agoFair play heh Looks at 123 years of partitions 16
Still extremly well made Video, thanks. 49
I am one of the enthusiasts of your channels both on a YouTube and on Nebula as well. I am Pole as an origin, born in Poznan and I am happy to see, you can avoid single sided (Polish and/or German) point of view on this very complexed problem. Simply: thank you. However, I have one favour to ask, you continuously exceed your 100th anniversary formula in both directions. Maybe you can find interest and time to present the Polish Greater Poland uprising of December 27th 1918, which is significant for me (but not only for me), because is one and only major polish uprising which has prevailed to this very day.
Best Regards
Marek Tomczak ... 9
The first brother was in the Wehrmacht in tanks, he was killed by a Russian bullet in captivity because he had sugar. My grandmother's second brother got into the KZ Theresienstadt for not showing up in the Wehrmacht unit. The third brother was an officer in the Polish army, took part in the Warsaw Uprising and died there, hit in the back by a sniper bullet. Only one brother survived, the one who did not agree to military service. ... 9
Regards from The Netherlands 9
Thank you 2
They were convinced that they were somehow wrongfully cheated in that war. This lead to their early "eagerness" to enter WW1 & to punish Germany afterwards. It would cost them dearly in less than 20 years. ... 12
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Panzer żaba.
That means litteraly armored frog 😆😁😆🤣 52
BTW If you like this period (1918-1921)also check out The Iron Dice podcasts series.
However, I just wanted to bring one more nuance to the story - first and foremost, this was a class war. Poles were almost exclusively working class, while the capital owners were almost exclusively german. The emergence of Poland after WWI as a socialist state (lead by Polish Socialist Party) was a promise of a more egalitarian society to the working class in Upper Silesia, and the ethnicity was used to attract the slavic silesian working class.
Interestingly enough, a big chunk of polish Silesians who fought for Poland in 1921, were quickly disillusioned by the polish state, feeling that the region is treated rather like a conquered territory, with no local representation in the leadership and increasing polonization.
The struggle continues to this day - in the polish census from 2011, 800 000 people delcared their nationality as Silesian - and despite being the biggest minority in Poland, in the latest census from 2021, Silesian nationality was not even listed as one of the available to choose from. Every polish government since 1945 denied to accept silesian language as regional language. Not to mention polish government to this day enforcing polish nationalist version of history in our schools and public institutions, neglecting 600 years of silesian history when it was a part of german-speaking world.
Thank you for popularizing the history of my region! ... 59
In addition to Nebula, you could mirror your youtube footprint to odysee, for free and no extra work. 1
Thus it is clear what the western allies wanted to do, they wanted to loot the coal from Silesia. Ethic consideration did not matter.
This is also the reason why London and Paris later financed the harbor of Gdynia and the Magistrala Weglowa.
Important was also to get cheap work. Wages for the Poles were certainly a lot lesser than in the west. This was in fact in opposition to the coal workers in Britain. Later the British oligarchs reduced the wages by 30% what caused a general strike 1926.
This strike was not successful.
It should be noted that Churchill wanted the use of the armed forces to end this strike.
The question is what Churchill wanted to do - did he want to introduce forced labor ?! ... 5
"The voice of passion is better than the voice of reason. The passionless cannot change history" 27
1. Poland was aggressive and attacking it's neighbours, therefore it was the evil one
2. If the Germans won the plebiscyte, they should get the land and the Poles can't say anything about this.
And here are my views on those 2 opinions:
1. Poland did not have a clear border like Spain or France. The Polish people were living in many parts of Eastern Europe, usually mixed with other nationalities. Silesia was just one of many regions, that the reborn Polish state had the right to fight (for the reasons of Poles living there). After Poland disapeared from the maps after the partitions, all Polish (disputed or not*) lands were under the control of some other power. In 1919 Poland had control mainly over the post-russian lands that were ethnically Polish, with Warsaw, Lodz, Lublin etc. There were also ethnically Polish lands in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but as it came to those lands, poles were not the only ones having rights to them. Ukrainians, Czechs and Slovaks all wanted some of those lands because they were partially of their ethnicity or because of historical claims (the second one is irrelevant in my opinion). The biggest problem of that situation was that there was no clear line on a map that divided those various ethnicities. That is why Poland fought with the Czechs and Ukrainians. They conquered all of the land disputed with Ukraine(which failed to survive) but mostly lost with the Czechs(*Poland had a bigger problem to the east). The lands taken by Prussia in the partitions were also ethically diverse. The Germans were a majority in cities like Danzig(Pomerania) or Kattowitz(Upper Silesia) but there were also many parts of those territories that were predominantly Polish. Like Poznań(Posen in German)-the capital of Greater Poland(that is the name of this region) or the rural parts of Upper Silesia. That is why there were tensions between Poles and Germans. Germany had all the lands that were disputed and did not wish to loose any and Poland had none at the start and wished to have those that are polish, whit the excemption of Pomerania. In Greater Poland a succesful uprising(made by people living in the region) secured those land for Poland. In Silesia... you saw the video.
2. In the terms of the plebsicite it was agreed that the lands would be split in some way. It wasn't like many people believe that the wining side takes all. The problem was the same as in post Austro-Hungarian lands, that the clear line dividing two ethnicities couldn't have been drawn. Anyway, 60% of people voted for Germany, many of those were Poles. One explenation may be that Poland was fighting the war with the Soviets in the east and therefore they looked more unstable, but I digress. The uprising did not start because the Poles wanted to take all of Silesia for themselfes, thereby ignoring the terms of the plebiscite, but to gain as much of ethnically polish parts of Upper Silesia for themselfes. Germany would be satsfied only if they keep all of Silesia and Poland could have been satisfied only if they get all ethnically Polish lands(which contradicted the German plans). The conflict was inevitable, no matter who got what. ... 50
Looks at 123 years of partitions 16